I honestly don't think the intent is ever to get rid of Halloween. I think all this stuff parents and communities are doing to meddle with trick or treating is just paranoia/public safety/political correctness based. American culture as a whole is kind of trying to stamp out any activity that might pose the slightest threat of danger or discomfort and it's affecting so many things beyond Halloween. Not commenting on whether that's helpful or harmful, it just is.
What will cities or communities plan to get rid of Halloween
With threads of cities doing halloween at certain hours and other cities doing it on a certain day besides the 31st what are other issues do you think that cities will try to stop halloween. My thought is they might limit the calories or size of treats maybe even have a mandate that you also have to have healthy alternatives available upon request. Just seeing what others think cities or communities will think of next.
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Specific hours and days other than the 31st are not really a new thing. And I also do not thing the intent is to get rid of Halloween. What would be the point in that? To me, it's just another example of parent organizations and city officials trying to micro-manage every part of life. Fortunately, my town has never succumbed to such nonsense but I know it isn't that uncommon.
I don't think it will ever go that far. The practice of having a scheduled time for TOTing has been going on in regions of the United States for years. This topic gets brought up every year on here. Just like those who have no designated times for TOT are shocked, those of us that have lived with it all our lives are equally as shocked that there are regions where there isn't. It hasn't affected anything in all these years and it won't change anything in coming years. Unless it falls on a Friday, for us, it will always be on Halloween. The only reason it gets changed is because of Friday football games. It's not just my town, it's every area city/town. Nothing new for NE Ohio. Next year the 31st is on a Saturday. Our TOTing will be on Saturday, but it will be scheduled for a set time. No one will care. It's just the way it is.
Another person posted this on another thread:
http://www.timesleader.com/news/editorial/50506757/OUR-VIEW-Is-costume-tradition-nearing-end
Our Opinion: Trick-or-treat custom in NEPA neighborhoods might one day RIP
Last updated: October 17. 2014 4:55PM - 827 Views
Would it be a good idea to …
… put an end to trick-or-treating?
Several communities and schools in the United States have tried, with various levels of success, to ban what was once considered harmless Halloween revelry, citing concerns about safety, cultural and religious differences, and the detrimental effects of excess sweets.
An elementary school in Levittown planned to ax its Halloween costume parade, which had been a decades-long tradition, until public backlash prompted school officials to reconsider, according to a 2012 report by Fox News. Elsewhere, certain cities have long discouraged teenagers from participating by placing age limits on those who can legally travel door-to-door for candy handouts. Those laws are rarely, if ever, enforced, according to an October 2010 Associated Press article.
In Pennsylvania this year, for matters of public safety, one township in the Pocono Mountains temporarily has put the kibosh on trick-or-treating. Officials in Barrett Township cancelled the activity, as well as a Halloween parade, because of the ongoing manhunt in the region for homicide suspect Eric Frein. Youngsters in the area will instead be able to participate in a trunk-or-treat event at a local school, where participants can be more closely supervised.
Trunk or treat, an idea catching on in many places, involves a Halloween party held in a parking lot, where goodies are distributed to children from open car trunks. Games are usually part of the mix, too. Cedar Crest College, in Allentown, will hold a trunk or treat for the community this year as part of a larger fall festival, according to the institution’s website.
Is it time to prohibit children in search of snacks one night a year from roaming the Wyoming Valley’s streets, where they risk injury and potential encounters with malicious strangers? Should the more contained “trunk or treat” become the new norm? Or is the really spooky thing when overprotective, or politically correct, adults pooh-pooh childhood fun?
Give us your feedback by sending a letter to the editor or by posting comments to this editorial at timesleader.com or facebook.com/timesleader.
Likewise, share your ideas for improving the community and making area residents’ lives better. Maybe we’ll spotlight your suggestions in a future editorial and ask readers, “Would it be a good idea to …”
http://www.timesleader.com/news/editorial/50506757/OUR-VIEW-Is-costume-tradition-nearing-end
Our Opinion: Trick-or-treat custom in NEPA neighborhoods might one day RIP
Last updated: October 17. 2014 4:55PM - 827 Views
Would it be a good idea to …
… put an end to trick-or-treating?
Several communities and schools in the United States have tried, with various levels of success, to ban what was once considered harmless Halloween revelry, citing concerns about safety, cultural and religious differences, and the detrimental effects of excess sweets.
An elementary school in Levittown planned to ax its Halloween costume parade, which had been a decades-long tradition, until public backlash prompted school officials to reconsider, according to a 2012 report by Fox News. Elsewhere, certain cities have long discouraged teenagers from participating by placing age limits on those who can legally travel door-to-door for candy handouts. Those laws are rarely, if ever, enforced, according to an October 2010 Associated Press article.
In Pennsylvania this year, for matters of public safety, one township in the Pocono Mountains temporarily has put the kibosh on trick-or-treating. Officials in Barrett Township cancelled the activity, as well as a Halloween parade, because of the ongoing manhunt in the region for homicide suspect Eric Frein. Youngsters in the area will instead be able to participate in a trunk-or-treat event at a local school, where participants can be more closely supervised.
Trunk or treat, an idea catching on in many places, involves a Halloween party held in a parking lot, where goodies are distributed to children from open car trunks. Games are usually part of the mix, too. Cedar Crest College, in Allentown, will hold a trunk or treat for the community this year as part of a larger fall festival, according to the institution’s website.
Is it time to prohibit children in search of snacks one night a year from roaming the Wyoming Valley’s streets, where they risk injury and potential encounters with malicious strangers? Should the more contained “trunk or treat” become the new norm? Or is the really spooky thing when overprotective, or politically correct, adults pooh-pooh childhood fun?
Give us your feedback by sending a letter to the editor or by posting comments to this editorial at timesleader.com or facebook.com/timesleader.
Likewise, share your ideas for improving the community and making area residents’ lives better. Maybe we’ll spotlight your suggestions in a future editorial and ask readers, “Would it be a good idea to …”
Anyway, I can see a day that communities and towns and cities prohibit ToTing. They will mandate a trunk or treat.
America is getting really control freak crazy. Halloween is unheard of in schools now. Even for elementary kids! No more costumes, parades, etc.
Schools are prohibiting homemade treats, mandating store bought, pre-wrapped treats. Schools are starting to prohibit cakes and cupcakes for student birthdays.
Schools are no longer allowed to sell soda, and vending machines have to vend healthy snacks. Schools lunches are smaller and have less calories. That is fine for overweight kids, but one of our kids plays varsity football, practices and weight lifts, and can eat unlimited calories. We pack his lunch and send extra food in, but if we didn't he'd be starving everyday.
I think that it may take years, but it will happen. It already is in some areas. Setting hours, switching days? I find that just insane.
I understand some communities have set hours and days for years, but it is a slow march to extinction or heavy regulation.
I find it scary, and a sad comment on life today. Nothing is above gov regulation, ever. Note the numerous stories of kid's lemonade stands being shut down!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/03/the-inexplicable-war-on-lemonade-stands/
The Inexplicable War on Lemonade Stands
"I’m beginning to think that there’s a nation-wide government conspiracy against either lemonade or children, because these lemonade stand shutdowns seem to be getting more and more common. If you set up a stand for your kids, just be prepared for a visit from the cops.
In Coralville, Iowa police shut down 4-year-old Abigail Krstinger’s lemonade stand after it had been up for half an hour. Dustin Krustinger told reporters that his daughter was selling lemonade at 25 cents a cup during the Register’s Annual Great Bicycle Race Across Iowa (or RAGBRAI), and couldn’t have made more than five dollars, adding “If the line is drawn to the point where a four-year-old eight blocks away can’t sell a couple glasses of lemonade for 25 cents, than I think the line has been drawn at the wrong spot.”
*more stories of lemonade madness at link*
America is getting really control freak crazy. Halloween is unheard of in schools now. Even for elementary kids! No more costumes, parades, etc.
Schools are prohibiting homemade treats, mandating store bought, pre-wrapped treats. Schools are starting to prohibit cakes and cupcakes for student birthdays.
Schools are no longer allowed to sell soda, and vending machines have to vend healthy snacks. Schools lunches are smaller and have less calories. That is fine for overweight kids, but one of our kids plays varsity football, practices and weight lifts, and can eat unlimited calories. We pack his lunch and send extra food in, but if we didn't he'd be starving everyday.
I think that it may take years, but it will happen. It already is in some areas. Setting hours, switching days? I find that just insane.
I understand some communities have set hours and days for years, but it is a slow march to extinction or heavy regulation.
I find it scary, and a sad comment on life today. Nothing is above gov regulation, ever. Note the numerous stories of kid's lemonade stands being shut down!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/03/the-inexplicable-war-on-lemonade-stands/
The Inexplicable War on Lemonade Stands
"I’m beginning to think that there’s a nation-wide government conspiracy against either lemonade or children, because these lemonade stand shutdowns seem to be getting more and more common. If you set up a stand for your kids, just be prepared for a visit from the cops.
In Coralville, Iowa police shut down 4-year-old Abigail Krstinger’s lemonade stand after it had been up for half an hour. Dustin Krustinger told reporters that his daughter was selling lemonade at 25 cents a cup during the Register’s Annual Great Bicycle Race Across Iowa (or RAGBRAI), and couldn’t have made more than five dollars, adding “If the line is drawn to the point where a four-year-old eight blocks away can’t sell a couple glasses of lemonade for 25 cents, than I think the line has been drawn at the wrong spot.”
*more stories of lemonade madness at link*
I heard 25 years ago that Haunted Houses were banned in several counties in some states like maybe it was Kansas and Nebraska?
There was also a rumor many years ago that a certain manufacturer of pumpkin carving tools was trying to make the Government to declare Halloween had to Always be on a Saturday in October... so he could have better sales for his own product.
I was thinking about making my own currency and establishing it as the only way to pay debts. First I would need a large loan to buy paper and my Crayolas.I almost forgot Scissors!
Our local Police Chief used to sponsor a telephone calling gimmick where he would draw names of children, phone them right at 9O'Clock and if they were home, they got a new Watch. "9' O Clock?" Tricky-Treaty has barely began!
There was also a rumor many years ago that a certain manufacturer of pumpkin carving tools was trying to make the Government to declare Halloween had to Always be on a Saturday in October... so he could have better sales for his own product.
I was thinking about making my own currency and establishing it as the only way to pay debts. First I would need a large loan to buy paper and my Crayolas.I almost forgot Scissors!
Our local Police Chief used to sponsor a telephone calling gimmick where he would draw names of children, phone them right at 9O'Clock and if they were home, they got a new Watch. "9' O Clock?" Tricky-Treaty has barely began!
25 years ago would have been about the right timing for several major haunted house fires - particularly the fire at Haunted Castle fire at Great Adventure (Jackson, NJ, 1984), the Haunted Mansion fire (Long Branch, NJ, 1987) and the Brigantine Castle fire (Brigantine, NJ, 1987). The were the top three premiere haunted attractions in New Jersey in the 80's,and all succumbed to fire under odd or downright questionable circumstances. By the early 1990's (25 years ago), a lot of communities outright banned enclosed or indoor haunts while awaiting the 1996 revision of the national fire code which specifically addressed enclosed haunts in a rather draconic fashion, much of which was removed in 2008.I heard 25 years ago that Haunted Houses were banned in several counties in some states like maybe it was Kansas and Nebraska?
There was also a rumor many years ago that a certain manufacturer of pumpkin carving tools was trying to make the Government to declare Halloween had to Always be on a Saturday in October... so he could have better sales for his own product.
I was thinking about making my own currency and establishing it as the only way to pay debts. First I would need a large loan to buy paper and my Crayolas.I almost forgot Scissors!
Our local Police Chief used to sponsor a telephone calling gimmick where he would draw names of children, phone them right at 9O'Clock and if they were home, they got a new Watch. "9' O Clock?" Tricky-Treaty has barely began!
I want to vomit reading this stuff. This country is taking this sh*t too far.
I remember when I was a kid trick or treating in the 70's, two neighboring cities (Dearborn and Dearborn Heights (Michigan)) decided to do Trick or Treat on different days to decrease the foot traffic on the streets. One did it Oct 30th and the other did it Oct 31st. It was great because the kids (myself included) simply trick or treated both days and the city had two days with massive foot traffic. Needless to say it has not been tried since in those cities.
Actually about 30 -40 business owners in our original downtown district have gotten together this year. They are going to decorate, hand out candy and do a little festival from 6pm - 7:30 pm. Color me surprised and pleased! Not only will it bring more people out downtown, but we'll have a larger than expected crowd since we are just a few blocks away!
A lot of the bs is because people are so sue happy. They have mandated hours so there are police on duty to help cover the butts of the township/ city and protect them from being sued , when in reality if the damn parents took responsibility for their children half the problem would be solved. And yes from lemonade stands to selling surplus veggies from your garden, the gvmt is trying to control us more and more. They use the excuse of public safety. The Sheeple nation is on the rise. And we are becoming a Nation of fear.. The terrorist might do this, crazy person might do that. Yup. They might. But unless we continue to do things ..like TOT ..we become more distanced from our neighbors and have no way of knowing if someone is..off..or suspicious.
Our local newspaper just announced our counties TorTing times and days. This stupid rinky dinky town is having their TorT Thursday the 23rd. 
Every other town is having it next week! WTH!!?? We do not have a Halloween parade where the neighboring towns do and the schools here no longer have Halloween parties, but fall parties. Yep, I truly believe that our town is trying to do away with Halloween all together.
Every other town is having it next week! WTH!!?? We do not have a Halloween parade where the neighboring towns do and the schools here no longer have Halloween parties, but fall parties. Yep, I truly believe that our town is trying to do away with Halloween all together. That is so dang wrong. Halloween should be on the 31st, period.Our local newspaper just announced our counties TorTing times and days. This stupid rinky dinky town is having their TorT Thursday the 23rd.
We never have TorT on Halloween. It's always the Thursday before Halloween, but never this early. A whole entire week early?! This is ridiculous!!
The only time they have changed toting dates here is when Halloween fell on a Sunday, the churches were less than pleased. It was changed to Saturday instead.
I go to church, and changing halloween because it falls on a Sunday is junk, too. If it is October 31st, it is halloween.The only time they have changed toting dates here is when Halloween fell on a Sunday, the churches were less than pleased. It was changed to Saturday instead.
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