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I got off of work yesterday and took my boys to Wal-mart, they wanted a store bought costume instead of being creative...but that's a different story.

We got 3 Wal Marts in town. 2 Super Wallys and 1 regular one. We went to our newest Super Wal Mart, and entered through their garden center... What's the first thing I see... 4 aisles of Christmas lights, bulbs and trees... I've seen the posts and knew it happens, but it's still shocking.

We actually got into the store, and believe it or not...they had 6 aisles dedicated to Christmas decorations already. You know, the placards that says what goes where. Well, the shocking thing was...employees were already removing Halloween decorations and stocking Christmas.

I remember last year, at least Wal-Mart had inflatables and quite a few decorations on display. Nothing this year though...a crappy display of childrens costumes, and not a big selection.

We left this super Wal-Mart to go to the regular Wal-Mart closer to our house, and the same thing. They were clearing off 1 row of Halloween shelves and replacing with Christmas.

I was so ticked, we left everything there and decided NOT to shop at Wal-Mart. I am sooo tempted to call the manager and ask WTH is going on and letting him know we were highly disappointed.

There should be someone we could complain to....I hate to use the word boycott, but something has to open their eyes. Too bad we all couldn't complain to the corporate side of the business and let them know what we think...

Anybody else fed up completely with the way Halloween is getting overlooked? I like Christmas too, but now I'm really beginning to forget about it.
 

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Seems to be happening everywhere :( I don't think it would do much good to boycott, there are people buying Christmas stuff this early, or they wouldn't have it out.
 

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I already don't shop Wal-Mart due to other issues.

I think I've been in a Wally world maybe 2-3 times in the last 5 years.

I absolutely think that saying something to the managers of the stores that are not stocking Halloween in favor of rolling Christmas out waaaaaay early is one of the first steps in letting them know that their customer base is not happy.

I've said stuff like this before to managers myself. I was very polite, but mentioned that Halloween is a growing holiday as far as spending... it's not all about the candy anymore. ;)
 

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agree

It just seems so weird! All of the stores I have been to seem to have very little in the Halloween dept. Walmart, kmart, even some of the spirit and Halloween express store seem very different this year. I thought it was just me! I do all my shopping on EBAY and make many of my own props, so its not a huge deal, but COME ON PEOPLE!! They had a report the last few years that halloween outsold XMAS! I guess these people don't like money. LOL!
 

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well despite the halloween section being quite ... lacking (except for the 4 solid walls of candy) it's still up at my local walmart.

as for christmas stuff in the garden section, the doesn't surprise me where i am, our local walmart has one perpetual shelf dedicated to christmas all year in the garden area

the only christmas things that should be out this time of year is the lights so that haunters can grab them up and modify them for halloween :D
 

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At least they could put stuff on sale before they pull it. On a better note the props you can buy now are 100 times better than they were even 5 years ago, and fairly cheap- at walgreens and other retailers you can usually buy decent 4-5 ft tall animatronic witches, grim reapers, etc for under $20.
 

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Oh, God. I feel your pain. That's horrible. I also don't like Wal-Mart for other reasons, but that is never a pretty sight to see anywhere.
 

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My local walmart is the same. They have hardly any halloween stuff.

Till I found one adult costume, was about 20 minutes.

There were no animated props, no inflatables, not lights, just costumes and candy.

Even the halloween store by me is kind of empty. The first year we have one.

There is one corner with maybe 20-25 mens costumes. The rest of the store is womens and kids. Overpriced too.

I did spend almost 70 bucks today on halloween supplies, though.
 

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As I stated in a earlier post, wal-mart in plattsburgh was putting putting x-mas stuff out before they had halloween stuff out. I agree it is ridiculous. The selection is nowhere what it used to be and the fog juice, wal-mart $9.99 for a quart, K-mart $5.99 for a pint. It's all insane. I order more stuff on-line more than ever, it's cheaper and no stores involved. Even with shipping, it's usually cheaper. If not cheaper, at least its 20 times the service. I agree, the issue should be addressed to somebody. Guys like Dean at Monster Guts make shopping for Halloween items stress-free and worry free. don't get me wrong, I like x-mas as well at the next person, but one holiday at a time would be good. That's probably why I like Halloween more, less commercialism, well, except for the ones you want to lure in. Halloween also inspires and offers the best support groups.
 

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Good Morning America did a news story about Walmart, and other stores, stocking for Christmas early.

They said that most stores are starting Christmas a month earlier than usual because of fear of a disappointing season. They want people to get into the "spirit" early and buy EARLY. They said statistics show that people who buy early, actually buy more.

I also heard a radio spot about it. They said retail isn't concentrating on Halloween because statistics show people will cut down on their spending for Halloween, but not Christmas. The news people thought this was because people decorate for Halloween to "impress" strangers, TOTers, but Christmas is for family, friends, and co-workers.
 

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It's all due to Management. They tell them to do it, so they have to do it. Management sees
it as both items are big sellers.....so sell them both at the same time! Want to hear something
really strange? I had a friend that worked at Walmart during the Christmas
season and they said they were told not to wish customers "Merry Christmas!" That if the
management heard them they could be fired!
 

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Fortunately on the Halloween store side of things, Spirit isn't taking anything down, they just can't keep it on the shelves. Last week our local Spirit store made $12,000 on a single weekday.
Try and sell that many christmas trees in one day!
I think a lot of this is due to stores like Spirit, Target, and Halloween Express taking market share from wal-mart and michaels. It's hard to compete, so unfortunately many executives would prefer not to.
As for Halloween sales being down, the National Retail Federation expects a drastic increase in Halloween spending this year due to people using the holiuday to escape their worries for a day.
Here are some numbers quoted from their website National Retail Federation -

Halloween Celebrations Rise as Consumers Look to Escape Everyday Realities
--Total Halloween spending to reach $5.77 billion--

Washington, September 30, 2008 – The spookiest holiday of the year may bring a bit of needed relief to consumers and retailers. According to the National Retail Federation’s Halloween Consumer Intentions and Actions Survey, conducted by BIGresearch, more consumers plan to celebrate the holiday this year (64.5% vs. 58.7%). This year, the average person plans to spend $66.54 on the holiday, up from $64.82 one year ago. Total Halloween spending for 2008 is estimated to reach $5.77 billion.*
 

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ha, i know i didn't spend that much!!! I think i spent $25 this year, a new personal low. I built my deli case out of all scrap wood i had, and painted it with paint i already had.

I've turned off my cable and house phone (save $100/mo) and getting rid of one car (save $400/mo) to buy a $2000 beater which i can afford from the sale of my current car. I've been selling things like mad on Craigslist and eBay. I'm doing this because my wife and I are both in college and our small business is not doing very well thanks to the nice economy. At least gas prices are coming down, too bad this is what it had to take.

So they're right, xmas season this year is going to suck. A lot of people i know are doing the same things i am. My store did 1/3 of its normal xmas sales LAST year... it's going to be worse this year i'm sure of it. We're not buying much of anything for anyone that's for sure. If we spend $100 i'll be surprised.

Halloween always takes my mind off of reality, i think that's why i enjoy it so much. The big problem with early xmas is that if it sells well early, they're going to do it EVERY year... Bah! Humbug!
 

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I was in Big Lots yesterday and they have everything Halloween pushed to just 2 aisles now. And the center of the store looks like Father Christmas puked in there.
 
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