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This year in my neighborhood, I had 15-20 ToTs that didnt dress in costume (AT ALL, not even an ill attempt) but still went around asking for candy. While I gave them theyre fair share this year, does anyone think it'd be acceptable to make a sign and post it in the front yard saying "no costume no candy" or would that be morally wrong? also, there were parents coming up with their own bags, asking for candy. what does everyone else think about this?
 

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Totally and completely acceptable...here in St. Louis, we have a tradition of asking ToT's to tell us a joke...make them work for it, so to speak. Maybe that would be something you could do for the non-costumed.

I have had moms come around carrying a pillow case "I have a son sick at home..."

I tell them to bring the boy by when he's well and I'll happily give him candy.

I say make that sign!
 

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Well Ive already started a tombstone thats gonna read "I didnt wear a costume last year" and put that up front so they can all see. And I like the joke idea!
 
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My opinion is age limits and costume restrictions kill the spirit of the Halloween. There are families that do not allow their kids to go out and TOT so they dont have costumes and they sneak out or mabye they cant afford one. The kids are not old enough to build a haunt yet so they are lost in the shuffle. Denying candy or making rules in my opinion kills Halloween Spirit for some older kids. If a kid is out and told no all night theres not much left to do but get into trouble. I actually gave the older kids handfulls of candy since they were lectured all night by others and denied candy for loving the very thing we sit on this site and obsess over all year. I saw alot of Happy faces with my 700 plus Trick of Treaters and they remembered my golden rule. "Say Trick or Treat and no matter age or costume you get candy" We get one night to show our community what Halloween is and we are representitives of the holiday so have fun and spread love to the future haunters of the world.
 

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Sure Gris, that is one way to look at it...then there's this:

Douchey Teen 1: Wanna go get some candy?
Douchey Teen 2: Yeah man...

Douchey teens proceed to get shopping bags and go out and get candy...limiting the number of people who are dressed up who can get candy because, using your logic, they get more than the others.

You gotta get in the spirit to be part of the spirit...and if it's important enough for you to defy your parents and sneak out, then you bet your *** it's a short step to at least attempting a costume...shove some azalias in your pants and say your a Bushman or something but put out a little effort.
 

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I personally love the "I didn't wear a costume" tombstone!
 

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Sure Gris, that is one way to look at it...then there's this:

Douchey Teen 1: Wanna go get some candy?
Douchey Teen 2: Yeah man...

Douchey teens proceed to get shopping bags and go out and get candy....
..and they are welcome to it, at least at our place. Maybe a little act of kindness in the spirit of the season will help alleviate some of the "douchey-ness". And if it doesn't, well, that's their issue, not mine. I feel good about handing out candy and treats to anybody.
 

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Meh, I don't care. I don't really wanna get stuck with all the candy (or small toys or whatever you hand out) & there's usually only 1 or 2 that do it so it just isn't a big deal.
 

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You know what, i'm just glad to see the kids (no matter what age) out and about in the neighborhood, not being afraid to go around. So much is made of how scared we should all be, it's good to see many not affected by these messages. No costume - no problem, I'm an equal opportunity Halloweenier.
 

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I used to be in the mindset of "no costume no candy", However I love Halloween so much that to me it does not matter, as long as they say "Trick or Treat". I remember years growing up when my family did not have the money to get me a costume. I would wear jeans, sneakers, and a white shirt with my denim jacket. When people asked me who I was supposed to be, I just told them Pony Boy. I know some people may not be as creative but why punish them for their lack of creativity or lack of means.
 

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I was thinking about going out and getting a bunch of cheap costume accessiores and maybe giving those out to the kids with no costumes, I know some places to find eyepatches and bandanas for super cheap, so maybe next year I'll just hand those out so they can all be pirates.
 
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I used to be in the mindset of "no costume no candy", However I love Halloween so much that to me it does not matter, as long as they say "Trick or Treat". I remember years growing up when my family did not have the money to get me a costume. I would wear jeans, sneakers, and a white shirt with my denim jacket. When people asked me who I was supposed to be, I just told them Pony Boy. I know some people may not be as creative but why punish them for their lack of creativity or lack of means.
Yep. I buy candy and participate in Halloween to have a good time and create memories for me and my family, AND to keep the spirit of halloween alive, not to keep a few pieces of candy from kids or adults.
 

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I don't take a totally hard line on it, but it pisses me off seeing some middle schooler kids come by and expect to just get candy without doing anything or dressing up.

So I hassled a couple kids in jest, just enough to make them uncomfortable enough to either do soemthing goofy or fall on the sword before I gave them candy.

One of the more interesting moments was a few of the kids my son (13 years old) goes to school with came by. My son doesn't like this kids, buncha knuckleheads. And one of them told my kid that they were---late in the night--going to vandalize some houses and Halloween stuff. I knew this in advance so made a comment about using Texas's "Castle Doctrine" to bring out a real shotgun should anyone decide to mess with my spread. I think one of these kids almost wet himself on my doorstep. And to add to it, the kid was wearing all black, no maekup, mask, nothing and when I asked him what he was, he said a "goth teen"...give me a break. I'm starting to feel old but closely approaching grumpy old man "i don't give a damn' territory, haha
 

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I don't get that many TOTers anymore so I am happy to give out candy to whomever shows up. The last thing i need is a bunch of candy around the house. I just end up bringing the leftovers to work anyway.
 

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Man, I don't care anymore. I used to, and then I realized maybe they can't afford costumes. This year I had kids without even any bags to hold their haul. I give everyone the same (1 chocolate and 2 non-chocolate) no matter costumed or not.

Now if they're rude, on the other hand...:p
 

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We have kids shuttled in from all over, large field in front of the development becomes a parking lot monitored by the local police. Kids started around 6pm, and by 7pm most houses were completely out of candy. We ran until 8pm, and were still seeing kids until close to 10pm. At one piece per child we had WELL over 1500 kids. Large coolers FILLED with candy gone, and FAST. It really bothered me to see most of the kids with costumes not get candy, because a bunch of kids who put no effort into anything wipe it all out long before they showed up. Next year will definitely be a no costume, no candy year, especially since 95% of the kids aren't even from the neighborhood.

.....oh and most of them were rude as hell.
 

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I give kids without costumes a little bit of a hard time about it since it really isn't that hard to do something at all. Even a lame costume counts, but you have to sell me on it. The older kids and adults without costumes who are escorting younger ToTs get candy if they want it because they're working. I poke at the tweens and teens without costumes because costumes are traditional. If they let their end of the traditional practice [wearing a costume, saying trick-or-treat, saying thank you] drop, I might let my end [participating at all] drop. Halloween is a collection of traditions that vary from region to region, but costumes and ToTing are pretty much at the core. One of my neighbors stopped handing out candy because she said there are fewer ToTs every year and more and more of them are coming without costumes. It's hard to argue that logic. I want to keep ToTing alive her so I get good candy and set up my haunt, but I'm not above handing out travel size toothpaste tubes to non-exempt* ToTs without costumes.

*exempt ToTs are older kids and adults who escort little ToTs. Being a ToT escort is work. It's cool if they dress up but they get candy if they want it because they make it possible for the littler ones to be going door to door.
 

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Hello all,

This is a hard one. Initially when I set up my Magic Mirror for the first time in 2009, there was a mode on that digital puppet that if you pushed a particular button on the keyboard, it would display a tombstone on screen that said, "No Costume, No Candy". But being my first year AND I got off to a late start with some lighting issues, I didn't use the message.

The second year I did a floating pumpkin instead of the Magic Mirror and the pumpkin didn't have the "No Costume, No Candy" option. Once again, I did think of putting out a sign, but instead I ended up making verbal comments that I would like to see a costume, but I never refused the candy.

I kind of did the same thing in 2011 when I went back to the Magic Mirror.

This year was different, due to the hurricane, I was just overjoyed to see many TOTs out there in the first place. So I didn't make any comments at all or anything. It was simply, you showed up, you got candy.

I think next year, I probably would return to the verbal comments...but I don't think I would ever REFUSE candy. The only time I would refuse candy is if I caught someone trying to steal something or break something on my display, then I would just ask them to leave the property.

Overall, I very rarely get adults that ask for candy, but I have read here that others do have problems with adults. For me, this year I seen a surprising amount of adults that DID dress up, but didn't take candy. I even offered because I knew I had WAY more candy than TOT's, many just didn't want the candy. Overall I don't really view this as a kid's only holiday even though it is mostly for kids, but I do feel that if adults go through the trouble of making a costume and they want a piece of candy, then I will never refuse them. I don't refuse them even if they DON'T dress up. But then again, it really isn't an epidemic in my neighborhood that adults without a costume ask for candy.

So that is my take on it. No I don't like the fact that kids go out and Trick or Treat and don't make the effort to go in costume. But after all it is Trick Or Treat, and I certainly do not want the "Trick" to be on me. So I give them the candy anyway mainly just to keep the harmony.

Another thing I don't like is kids that 'recycle themselves'. That is they come back again and again for more candy. If they come back a second time I usually give them candy again and make a comical comment, but by the third time I will make a 'stronger' comment about it. Most of the time they turn away, but sometimes the kids persist. I still give them candy again, but by then they usually get the message and don't make an attempt to come back a 4th time. Thus, I don't think I ever had someone try more than 3 times.

One year though I had a clever kid that changed his costume THREE times to get more candy. While I did make a comment about it, it was a good comment and I said, "If anyone goes through THIS trouble to get another round of candy then they deserve another round". Too bad I don't see more of that.

I think in the 4 years I did Halloween, I only refused a kid candy once and that was after the kid came back a third time (I gave him candy twice before) and he sprayed silly string all over my mirror without provocation. At that point I told him that action was unwarranted as I gave him candy twice before AND he had no costume, and now he wants to cause trouble. I told him that he was ruining it for the rest of the Trick Or Treaters as now I had to clean the mess up. I told him to leave and not come back again. He did leave and I never saw him again.

Bottom line, I will give candy to everyone. If you don't have a costume, I will make a comment about it, but will not refuse. The only time I would refuse is if I catch someone causing trouble as in the case above.

Geo
 

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We always give out the full size bars and let the ToT choose a small toy as well.

We had a couple of older teens who didnt dress up but we let them have candy anyways and they had manners enough to thank us. We also let adults with little tiny kids take a bar as well.
All were appreciative and even the "sullen" teen types were friendly.

When I was still ToT in my 20's and early 30's nothing ticked me off more than hearing "Arent you too old to be trick or treating?" For one thing I am short and for another I wore a mask and full costume so they had no idea my age. These were usually the cheap [email protected]@$&! who gave you 1 Mary Jane or a single Tootsie roll.

And it pays to be kind. In the 11 years we have been setting up our yard we have had no vandalism nor thievery
 
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