Halloween Forum banner
1 - 18 of 48 Posts

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
JDubbya, after seeing your Pesci, I decided to check out midnightstudiosfx.com. I also found him on ebay, and there was a Vampire Bust, called Destiny, which had already sold. So I contacted him and ordered a couple of "in stock" facades, which I was pleased with. In April 2014, I placed a custom order for my own Pesci and Destiny. I sent him a picture of your Pesci, and told him I'd like mine similar to yours. I did not expect mine to be exactly like yours, but thought that for $200, I'd get the same level of details, including the wonderful rings on his horns. Here are the pics of what I got. No rings. It looks like he literally smeared glaze across the horns, and just let it drip down the sides.
 

Attachments

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
On with my story. The first two pictures are of the Destiny I found on ebay. I sent him those pictures and asked him to use them for a guide for mine. I asked if I could have the same light auburn hair. He said yes, everything's custom, so I could have it like I wanted it. I asked him if he had any arms that would work for her, and if there was any reason I would have problems mounting her to a Spider Hill PVC frame. He told me he would make me a set of arms for $160, and would attach them for me since it was much easier that way. He said the arms cost that because there's a lot of smoothing to do to get them looking right. He also said he'd leave a pole in the base of the bust so I could attach her to the frame. I very much appreciated him doing both things for me.
Final cost for Destiny, $460, plus shipping, of course.

When I got my Destiny, this is what she looked like. I can live with the hair being a different color, but her paint job and rough finish really upset me.

Here is how things transpired. The details are from emails I sent to interested parties on the day it happened. (I would like to mention that while I was waiting for my props to arrive, I also bought a Crypt Keeper and Tom Cruise as Lestat prop head from Kyle on ebay. Both were of far superior quality and finish to my Destiny.)

10/27 "Kyle is a really nice guy. Just got himself in a tight, I think. He said that when Brianna left him several months ago, that left him trying to figure out the supply side of the business, and he ended up spending a lot of time running for the things he needed for different projects. He ended up getting someone to help him with some of the painting, and my Destiny was one of the things he didn't paint himself. He said that going forward, he was going to do all the painting on the orders, and that he would work on any of my orders himself exclusively. As for the mold problems, he said he's cast 75-100 sets of arms with that mold, and needs to make a new set.
He said he took last week off, and I guess is going to relax this week to, because he was pretty adamant that he didn't want me to send the props to him until after Halloween, even though I told him to take his time, and I was in no hurry for him to get them right back out to me. I'm willing to wait for awesome, and I told him so."

1/21/15 "I didn't call Kyle again until today. He said he's made new casts of the arms, and that he would make me another Destiny and Pesci, and let me know when they are ready. He asked me again for details of what I wanted, and I emailed him the pics of Jdubbya's Pesci, and the Destiny he'd sold on ebay. I asked him if he was ready for me to send the pieces I had back to him, and he said to wait until he'd finished making the new pieces, and then I could send them.

He apologized again for the problems, and said that for this season, he had a couple of girls he's going to train to paint for him, but that he plans to eyeball everything before it goes out. He said that he's getting 100s of orders, and just can't keep up by himself. He didn't give me a completion date, but said he'd keep in touch with me."

6/9/15 " I heard from Kyle today, and don't know what to think. I called him on 5/20, left a message on his sales number. No response. So yesterday, I called both numbers, and left the same message: Who I was, calling to check on the progress of Destiny and Pesci. Told him I'd called on 5/20, and hadn't heard back, so please call me. I made sure to keep the tone pleasant.
This morning, he called. He wasn't unpleasant, but I could tell he was stressed. He wasn't as friendly and apologetic as he'd been before, and seemed to not remember much about our previous discussions, or my order. He wanted to know where Destiny and Pesci were...why he hadn't gotten them. I was shocked. I told him that the last time we talked, I asked to return them, and he said to keep them until he'd finished making me a new Destiny and Pesci.

He first told me he could make me a new Destiny, but he had not made a new mold for the arms, so they probably wouldn't be much better. I said, "Oh, I thought you said you'd just finished them the last time we talked". He said, no, he never got them done.
He asked, okay arms on Destiny, and repaint her, anything else? I said yes, she needs a pole in her torso, like before. And he raised his voice at me, "TORSO?!?!?!" I said, "No, sorry, not torso. At the bottom, below her breasts. She's a bust. Sorry, I just used the wrong term."
He ended up telling me that if I'd return the pieces, he'd re-paint Pesci's horns, and he'd clean up the arms and re-paint my Destiny (NOT make a new one) and ship them back to me at his expense. I guess I should've hounded him more, but he said he would work on it, and I took him at his word. I told him no rush so he wouldn't just throw something together, but from his demeanor today, I'm not sure that approach worked out.

I have to admit that when I talked to him last, and he told me to not send the pieces back until the new ones were done, I found that odd. Especially since all I asked for regarding Pesci was for his horns to be repainted. I wonder now if he wasn't hoping I'd just go away. And I really don't think I should have to put good money after bad, hoping he'll make it right. I don't know if I should send them back, or just write it off as a really disappointing experience. I hope, once he sees the pieces, he'll do right by me, and make them look awesome. But I just don't know..."

Long story longer, it would have cost me $78 minimum to ship them back. The impression he'd given me from our first talk was that he would send a call label for them. Nevertheless, I was going to pay the money and send them back because to this day, I get upset every time I see Destiny. I would have never bought that prop had I seen what I was actually going to get. The quality just isn't there. Kyle does some incredible work, but this isn't it. Anyhoo, every time I started to take them to the Post Office, something went wrong, and I didn't get there. After that happened, the third time, I took that as a sign that I should just let it go. So I did. I didn't call him again, and he hasn't called me.

However you feel about the details, the pics stand for themselves. Be aware that what you order might not be what you get. I'm talking quality and appearance.
 

Attachments

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
I still think Kyle is a good guy and crazy talented. But I don't like the way things turned out with my order. I know everyone wants to make as much $$ as possible, but he got the Rock Star reputation that he has by making incredibly detailed, lifelike props. Cutting corners by skimping details, and even having others work on finishing and painting his props just won't work with the reputation he's built for himself. Even if he finds people who can paint, it's unlikely that they could do the quality of work he does personally. That kind of talent is a gift, and can't be taught or learned.

If you could get masks personally made by him (and I'm sure he takes all his best, personally made stuff to the shows) I'm think you'd be delighted with what you get. I thnk that would be your best bet.

This is my concern, It sounds like he went through some personal problems and we all do and it affects us and what we do. If the matter were resolved to the customer's satisfaction, it would be a different story but sounds like Kyle just got frustrated and blew it off and then got defensive. NOT a good business practice. I love a few things on his site and really want to get them but am gun shy now. I emailed them twice this past week and received prompt, courteous replies answering all of my questions. I did ask if for some reason I wasn't satisfied could I return the masks and was told no as they were made to order. conversely, Jeff Death of Death Studios (who puts out very high quality masks) allows returns if your not completely satisfied.
If I knew MFX would have what I wanted at one of the trade shows, I'd pay someone to get them for me, providing they could see the item up close, and make sure it was top notch, sending mne a couple pics of the actual item. I appreciate the good input into this thread thus far. I know member slash has several of their props and Terra has purchased from them as well.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
The way he put pole in her, she'd stand in a sort of lunging position. So I think that's why he positioned the eyes looking up like that. The eyelashes were full of glue, but once I cleaned them up, I'm okay with her eyes....just not most of the rest of her. *sigh*

I'm like you. Not wealthy, but I don't mind paying for quality. Destiny was to be the centerpiece of my collection. I was soooo excited to get her... Oh, well.

When you go on ebay, search "Seller" and put in midnightstudios. You might also start an item search using several variations of his company name. Individuals put pieces from their collection on ebay once in a while, and that would be a good opportunity for you to score a nicer piece from his earlier days.

VV, I looked at your Destiny again and even the position of the eyes isn't as nice as their stock photo. Little things like that make a difference. I'm tempted to email them and be upfront about my concerns, possibly referencing some of the things mentioned here. I'm not wealthy and weigh these purchases carefully but I like nice stuff and wil spend good money if I know the quality is there. If I could be assured the masks would look as they appear in the stock photos, i'd be more apt to pull the trigger. I rarely go to ebay so what do I type in the search for to find him there?
 

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
Tommy, thank you for speaking to him, and for passing this message along to me. Yes, I would be beyond happy if he would make it right. Do you know if he works on Sunday, or do you think I should wait until tomorrow to call? Thanks again for your help.

velvet vampire,, i talked to kyle today about your post and other with concerns...im not sure if you are interested but kyle would like you to call him...he is offering to repair and make good on you item...if you call him im sure you can get this worked out....
 

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
I spoke to Kyle today, and I feel confident that he is going to make things right. He is going to rework Destiny and Pesci and ship them back to me at his expense. He said he would also either refund me some of the return postage or send me a little something extra. He asked, "You like little creatures, right?" lol (Yep, that's me. All about Gothica, Vampires, and creepy little creatures.)

Right now, I'm looking for a good, smaller box to ship the pieces in, and hope to get them in the mail tomorrow. He didn't give me a timeline on when I could expect them back. But I will post updates as I get them, and post pictures of the redone items as soon as they arrive. Yay!

Thanks again, Tommy G
 

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
Happy New Year everyone! I've had a couple of people ask me by PM about the progress with Destiny and Pesci. So I wanted to give you all an update.

On 12/18, Ashley from MS sent me an email acknowledging the package had just arrived. She said that they'd fix them up and ship them back as soon as they could. I know Christmas is a hectic time for everyone, so I haven't expected to hear anything more to this point. But I'm hoping that they'll be fixed up soon, and I'll let everyone know what else transpires, and certainly post pics when they are returned to me.


I bought the fawn and wolf this year and thought the quality, painting, customer service etc... were great. I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them again.

You can see there props in my haunt video

Hauntcast, I've been AWOL the last couple of weeks, but I wanted to thank you for your post, and your video. Your Wolf and Fawn look incredible. I can see why you're so pleased. I really enjoyed watching your video. Your props and lighting are awesome.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
Thank you Kyle Thompson and Midnight Studios FX

UPDATE:
This morning, Ashley from Midnight Studios FX, sent me an email containing pics of my re-done Destiny and Pesci for my approval. I think they look fantastic, and I wanted to post them so everyone could have a look.

Pesci got some very nice rings on his horns. That extra detail took him from a very nice prop to an extraordinary little ghoul. He's awesome.

Destiny got some smoothing and a new paint job. I think she looks 100X better. And from what I see in the pictures, I'm very pleased with her. I did ask that Kyle give her bloodshot eyes, and he is going to do that, and then the props will be shipped back to me.

I'd like to thank Kyle for fixing these props for me, and I'd like to thank Ashley for the pics and updates.

I'll post again when I receive Destiny and Pesci. I'm very excited to see them in person.
 

Attachments

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
Pesci by Midnight Studios FX

My creature re-dos arrived Wednesday. I'm sorry I wasn't able to post before now.

Here's Pesci. His horns got repainted and he looks great.

The three skulls were thrown in by Kyle to help offset my $52 postage cost to return the items to him.. He sent the pieces back to me at his expense.
 

Attachments

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
Destiny by Midnight Studios FX

And here is Destiny after her makeover. She looks 100X better. After Ashley sent me pics of the pieces for approval, I asked Kyle to please bloodshot the eyes. He did that, and I really like how the eyes turned out.

Thank you to Kyle and Ashley at Midnight Studios for taking care of this issue for me.

And thanks to Tommy G, Oaklawn Crematory, and JDubbya for encouraging me not to give up on getting these pieces fixed.
 

Attachments

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
Thanks, JDubbya. I'm glad it all ended well, too. Thanks for nudging me along.

Meh...I like *you're* Pesci better. I guess it's a grass is greener thing. lol I was comparing the two, and the horns on mine have a little more of a candy cane swirl going on, compared to yours. I also hadn't realized how different the teeth are. I like the eyes on yours better. That's cool that they're all a little different. When I ordered mine, Kyle told me that it was only the third one he'd ever done. Too bad we can't mate them and get a litter of monster pups!! bwahahaha

The skulls are cool. I have seen him offering them for bid in Lots on ebay from time to time.

Damn! Those look amazing! Now your Pesci looks better than mine! LOL! Destiny is perfect. I REALLY want those skulls too! Seeing this has made me very confident in ordering a mask or two from Kyle. This is the kind of work you don't mind spending good money on. Thanks for posting and so glad this worked out in the end.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
262 Posts
I don't know. I googled "Pesci Monster" and came up with pictures of a weird looking sea creature with vaguely similar teeth????

Kyle did also tell me that he made the little guy for the kids. So maybe he was just meant to be a "pesky" goblin? Of course, mine obviously developed a taste for blood....
 
1 - 18 of 48 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top