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Hi I am based in the uk and looking to crate a cauldron creep this year. I am struggling to source a suitable 5 - 6 rpm motor to power the head. Can anyone suggest a motor . I was wondering if a microwave turntable motor would be suitable or could it even be connected directly to a uk outlet . Thanks
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Do a search on ebay for AC Synchronous Motor 5/6RPM you'll see lots of choices.
Yep. The Kindy's motor, Made mine with two reindeer motors I salvaged from our old worn out xmas deer.
I assume you are looking for 220 volt being in Europe. Here is a lionk to an ebay seller- http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ROBUST-SMALL...745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a2704951
He also carries 12volt
Hi J-Man

I know this will probably be the silliest question you have ever had...I have been making animatronic props for years but it's usually powered by some other prop that I have pulled to pieces or already has a power source. I haven't made one from scratch using a motor but I really want to. I am in the UK and have seen these motors on Ebay so my silly question is how exactly do I power it safely ? ie I want to plug it in but don't want to blow myself, the house or the prop up:confused:
On j mans recommendation I have ordered a 240v ac motor so if I have a house left or am still alive when I power it up will let you know. As I suspected most of the ac motors have uses for other applications such as microwave turntables . Also purchased microwave shaft couplers to go with it
Ok asalt413 I will wait anxiously for your reply!:eek: Obviously should I never hear from you again I will assume the worst and won't proceed with ordering the motor (praying this is not the case) or poor J Man may be getting sued for dud information if there is considerable damage to your home;) All because he tried to help us electronic novices! At this point I don't even know what shaft couplers are , so there you go....maybe better for to me to stick with what I know! Otherwise, I will need a detailed 'How to And What To Buy' from you if yours is a success!:) Best of luck and look forward to seeing your creation:)
Shaft coupler = a tubular piece (usually metal) that attaches the motor drive shaft to whatever you're trying to turn. (-:
Thanks for that Neverhart. As I said earlier, my animatronics have usually developed from pulling other ones to pieces, or using other electrical items such as fans, moving toys etc I have never made one from scratch:confused:. Hence the reason I am eagerly awaiting asalt413 'How To' guide if his turns out ok! :D
A little late now but I would've recommended what has come to be called a vent motor. It runs on 12 volts (or less) so it's really safe. The thought of wiring 220 AC scares me.

It looks like this, and you should be able to find them at any local auto salvage yard: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HVAC-Heater...-V6-/311214258400?hash=item4875d0b8e0&vxp=mtr
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You power that motor (5-6rpm 220v) with any electric cord cut one off a old lamp or buy one at wal mart or a dollar store. You strip about a inch of wire from the end and connect one end of your electric cord to one of the wires from the motor and do the same for the other. It doesn't make any difference on which wire goes where. I use wire nuts on each wire and then wrap that in electrical tape (usually black) doing each wire and then both together. Then you just plug the end of the cord into your outlet.

I've used at least 1,000 of these motors and sold another 1,000 (USA only 110v ) over the last 3 years

For most people that I sold the motor to for this prop it worked great but for some it was not strong enough. Here's the reason, it's not the motor it's the way we each build the prop. This motor will reverse itself (turn the other direction) when it meets it's torque limit. So if your linkage on the stirring puts too much pressure on the motor or if what ever you use to do the stirring of the pot is too heavy the motor goes one way then reverses and goes the other. So it will work but it's up to you to find a balance on the linkage and weight. It works great for turning the head of the prop.

You can put this motor in a case as it shows in the below picture...I also sell these (USA only 110V) and the case I use ranges from what I can get at the best price but it needs to be at least 3in x 2.5 x 1(h)

The threaded hole running down the center is 4mm if you wanted to connect the motor to the prop linkage you will need a 4mm(thread) screw and the length of it will be according to your linkage. The below picture shows the linkage (tombstone peeper prop) connected to the motor using the 4mm threaded hole

Or you can use 1/2 CPVC. CPVC is smaller than the white PVC we all use, in the USA the CPVC is usually a pale yellowish and used for hot water lines. Below is a picture with the motor (in a case) and the CPVC. You drill a hole through the CPVC and connect it to the motor with a bolt that runs through the CPVC and the hole going through the shaft. You can do this with the motor in a case or out..it makes no difference

Below shows one without a case I'm using this for a different prop so the length of CPVC used will be up to you

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OK still alive and the house is intact.
So purchased a 220 v - 240 v AC syncronous motor from Amazon
(AC 220-240V 4/4.8RPM 50/60HZ 4W Synchronous Motor for Microwave Oven Sold by: sourcingmap ) only decisions you need to make are what RPM do you want and how will you power it - for me I wanted to e able to plug it into UK mains 240V

Purchased Microwave turn table coupler from amazon
(Plastic Microwave Oven Turntable Coupler 28mm High 2 Pcs Coffee Color Sold by: sourcingmap )
I plan to hot glue this to the shaft and then either hot glue a MDF disk to the coupler to attach arm or what ever I need

Purchased some termial connectors from Maplin and electrical cable

I wired up the live and neurtal to the terminals (doesnt matter which terminal you connect too)

the used plenty of insulation tape to make the terminal conections water resistant.

When tesitng on the main stronly recommend you use a surge protector for the first time

Now for the disclamer - I take no reposibility or liability for wiring the motor - particularly to a mains power connection - if you are at all uncertain seek the advice of a qualified electrician

good luck
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Without a picture I can't recommend a way to connect to the shaft but I wouldn't use hot glue. In my experience of using well over 1000 of these type of motors and I know all are not the same...they put off too much heat for the hot glue to hold. The heat from the motor will also come up to the shaft.

Maybe a coupler that has a set screw would work better
Glad to know you are safe asalt413:D I have been watching the news with baited breath hoping there was no explosions with suspicious circumstances with hundreds of parts of Halloween props everywhere!
So looks like this has gone ok then, it would be great if you put a pic on with the prop you create. I am still going to stay on the cautious side and stick with my hacked props I think, as I don't think I am quite confident enough with the whole wiring from scratch but looking forward to seeing your creation:)
I am currently hard at work creating a Carousel, which is taking a lot longer than I thought. I have been doing a lot in the garden with the weather been so nice ( got a couple of days off work) but I think the neighbours are wondering exactly what I am doing! :cool:
I've been trying to get motors from kindys since last October, it is still showing out of stock. I have sent them an email but they never replied as to when they would be back in stock
After much testing nearly done

I've been keeping an eye on yard sales for deer. When the lights stop working most folks either toss the deer in the trash, or yard sale them.
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