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Cable for Phono Plugs - 12V

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Hi all

Last year I saw a post where someone had made a 'plug and play' style setup for 12volt LED's using phono plugs. Last year I had a go using grey speaker wire and worked ok.

This year I would like to replace the grey speaker wire with black coloured cable. I'm trying to find (with no success) 2 core black round cable which I can solder to a phono plug which I believe cannot be greater than 4.5mm OD. I would also like to activate a solenoid[SUB][/SUB] with the same cable.

Had anyone got any recommendations or can point me in the right direct for such cable? (I'm UK based)

Many thanks
Rich
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Go look for on-the-spool bulk lamp cord. You can get ungrounded 16ga or 18ga stranded-conductor cord, and for cheap. Home Depot or Lowe's will have it.

My complaint about this concept of yours, is using phono plugs and jacks. In the action of plugging in a 1/4" phono or even a 1/8" headphone plug into a jack, is the tip actually grounds out with the sleeve, inside the jack. Ever notice a guitarist swapping guitars, and you hear that awful POP as he unplugs, then as he plugs back in? It is an innate failure in the design. In instrument level signals, the voltage is very low, and current is even lower. So all you get is a quick audio pop.

Doing a 12-volt power supply through these lamp cords, your audio pop can become sparks! Trust me on this one, I've tried, and I've blackened phono jacks and plugs when connecting while hot, and especially when they accidentally get yanked out. I cannot recommend against phono plugs for power with more urgency and caution.

SO.

What the heck would I recommend instead, you ask?

JST JCY style RC battery connectors:
http://a.co/fCTIJ8Y

EC5 low voltage connectors:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00XQ914XY?psc=1

And if you really want reliability, these are rubber jacketed waterproof connectors:
http://a.co/gx85yks

All of the above examples shield and cover the conducting terminals, so they cannot accidentally ground out against each other, and you cannot accidentally touch both terminals and electrocute yourself. They're also designed to only plug in one way, so you don't accidentally plug em in reverse polarity.

I want you to apply my personal DIY philosophy.

Do it once, do it right.
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Originally posted by Bryan316
My complaint about this concept of yours, is using phono plugs and jacks. In the action of plugging in a 1/4" phono or even a 1/8" headphone plug into a jack, is the tip actually grounds out with the sleeve, inside the jack. Ever notice a guitarist swapping guitars, and you hear that awful POP as he unplugs, then as he plugs back in? It is an innate failure in the design. In instrument level signals, the voltage is very low, and current is even lower. So all you get is a quick audio pop.

Doing a 12-volt power supply through these lamp cords, your audio pop can become sparks! Trust me on this one, I've tried, and I've blackened phono jacks and plugs when connecting while hot, and especially when they accidentally get yanked out. I cannot recommend against phono plugs for power with more urgency and caution.


All of the above examples shield and cover the conducting terminals, so they cannot accidentally ground out against each other, and you cannot accidentally touch both terminals and electrocute yourself. They're also designed to only plug in one way, so you don't accidentally plug em in reverse polarity.
While I agree with Bryan316 that phono jacks are not the best choice for 12vdc connections, there's really no danger in using them. First of all, you can't get electrocuted from 12vdc, you can't even get shocked. Secondly, the tip of the male jack (positive) touching the sleeve of the female jack upon insertion can't short anything because the current has no where to go. In fact, there are plenty of wall wart type adapters that have a 1/8" phono plug on the cord.
I'm starting to use 2-pin Deutsch connectors (clones of the DT series) for the higher current stuff and some neat little 2-pin sealed tail sets for low current.

The Deutsch ones are around $1 a pair while the little tails are about $0.50 a set. Much nicer than phono / jack cables imo, but you will have to solder it all together.
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