[yardhauntjunkie]

I personally think the original cider shack is pretty cool.

 

[TK421]

Thanks YHJ, I like the original shack, too, but it's just too heavy. The roof alone weighed over 100 lbs. It was a pain to move, and not really designed to be taken apart easily. It has actually just sat in our driveway for the past two years because the most I could do is drag it from the street up to the garage.

It's served it's purpose, but this new "shack" is far lighter and easier to assemple/disassemble, and store.

 

[TK421]

Wow! Styro and liquid nails rock!! I built the three base sections of the new shack last night in the garage while the rain fell. I built very sturdy frames out of 1x2 and 1x4 and then secured the 1" foam with liquid nails.

Each section is pretty dang light -- which is a real plus -- but the wood frame makes it very, very sturdy.

Here's a pic.

 

[litemareb4xmas]

looks good, my only suggestion is peel the film before you glue it down next time.
I guess it depends on how your edges come together, if you are joining at corners permanently and have to sand, it makes for a pain in the arse. and paint won't adhere well if you paint the inside.
Love the concept!

 

[TK421]

Thanks! I did peel the film off the outside already. Figured I should do that before gluing details and painting. I'll definitely remove the film from both sides before I do the roof.

 

[litemareb4xmas]

That window on the top, if you could rig a small tv up there and do a peppers ghost would really be cool.

 

[TK421]

That's a neat idea, but I don't know if a styrofoam roof can support that much weight. The first thing to do is see if I can even build it. How it looks painted, etc. Then I will see what I can put in the windows.

For right now, I was actually just thinking of a dim flicker bulb.

 

[litemareb4xmas]

maybe one of those little personal dvd/tv players like a 7" screen

 

[Specter]

I used to be hardcore for the Liquid Nails, until last season. I used white beaded foam for my walls- used the LN to secure it. It soaked right through the foam, and carved out HUGE impressions on the backside, ruining the wall. I've never seen it do that before- but this foam was more poroused than the pink foam.

So I would say if it's Pink/Blue foam- LN is fine. I am going to be trying silicone caulk this season my my tombstones tho- seems to be the way to go...

 

[TK421]

Specter, The LN seems to have worked great on the 1" white styro, but I did leave the film on the side I glued. I'll see if the LN eats through the white styro when in direct contact.

 

[litemareb4xmas]

I'm not having the problem and I'm using the same stuff, maybe it was a bad batch or something, I've never seen it do that and been using on props for 4 years now.

 

[Specter]

Right- yeah this stuff didn't have film on it at all. It's was fairly low density foam. I'm open that a higher density won't allow it to absorb as much.

 

[TK421]

Okay, I had the time so I went ahead and built the frame structure for the new cider shack roof.

Here is the basic angled frame. It is 4 ft wide, 5 ft long, and 3 ft tall.

Here it is with the dormers and windows framed out.

And here is the frame for the roof at the end of the day, with the dormer roof angle pieces added. I have built this frame so that each side can come apart with the removal of a few screws.

 

[TK421]

My next step will be to start cutting and gluing on the styrofoam panelling. I will also be putting on some bracing to the base, and a seperate section will be built for the roof.

 

[TK421]

I used to be hardcore for the Liquid Nails, until last season. I used white beaded foam for my walls- used the LN to secure it. It soaked right through the foam, and carved out HUGE impressions on the backside, ruining the wall. I've never seen it do that before- but this foam was more poroused than the pink foam.

So I would say if it's Pink/Blue foam- LN is fine. I am going to be trying silicone caulk this season my my tombstones tho- seems to be the way to go...

LEARNED SOMETHING NEW TONIGHT!!

Specter was right! When using the white "pill" styrofoam, the Liquid Nails will disolve the styrofoam over time. This can be reduced greatly by keeping the film on the styrofoam and only removing the film on areas you intend to leave exposed and paint.

My Cider Shack is fine because I left most of the plastic film on the styrofoam, but I had to reglue a few small pieces on the mausoleum.

From now on, when I'm securing white "pill" styrofoam sheeting to wood framing, I will be using Titebond All Weather glue. The stuff rocks and is nice and solid when it dries. It does take a bit longer to set, but it's worth it to have your styrofoam intact.

 

[13mummy]

Does liquid nails work good on the pink styrafoam, and not dissolve it?

 

[Mr_Chicken]

mummy, I think liquid nails works on pink styro. I know gorilla glue does.

 

[DaveintheGrave]

I use the Liquid Nails Construction Adhesive on the blue styrofoam with no problems.
I think the pink is made from the the same material as the blue, just a different color.
Pink foam for girls, blue foam for boys!!

 

[13mummy]

Awesome thanks, I have to glue a couple wood pieces onto my columns.

 

[TK421]

Does liquid nails work good on the pink styrafoam, and not dissolve it?

Sorry I haven't responded sooner, but my experients with pink foam tell me Liquid Nails will work just fine. The Liquid Nails seems to react to the white, pill styrofoam. Pink and Blue are denser and do not seem to react negatively.