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I have an epson 730h, which has the same number of lumens to yours, and am also using the Casa chiffon. I think your Phantasms image looks great, but can understand about the brightness since I was dealing with that issue.

Are you planning on using any background lighting to emphasize more of the holographic effect with the chiffon? I have candles going in my room along with a low wattage blue floodlight. I don't notice any of the "brightness" as I would with my room totally dark.

I think one of the Zombies scenes looks great with a shower curtain as well.

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capo33

· #10 · Oct 16, 2015

reefcrazed said:
I am using the Casa fabric and an Epson 740hd projector. Even on economy mode, is it too bright? I just need everyone's opinion. Halloween is getting close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7te081SIUUE

Yours looks amazing- I have 4 Atmosfearfx dvd and projectors going this year- my 3'rd year using them and yours looks better than mine - would not change a thing- color is brilliant and you have a great window to project onto!

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Discussion Starter · #11 · Oct 16, 2015

I was thinking it looked bad from the others I have seen on the web. If you think it looks good, I will just let it go.

What I did, because I did not want overlap on the videos, I compiled a series for upstairs and a series for downstairs. The upstairs is playing phantom type videos and the downstairs zombies and other white on blacks. When one finishes playing upstairs, there is a 15 second delay before the downstairs starts playing. There is no overlap. The total time of each video is 25 minutes and 30 seconds. Since they start at the same time they never get out of sync with each other.

As far as quality, the new Phantasm series is a huge 3gb download from the website. Those are very good quality for $60 but my favorite are still the shadow series, they are simple and look great on the shower curtain. Damned if I can get the wrinkles out of it though.

I changed the settings on the Epson projectors to auto power on when they get power. I have the sound and projectors on a timer that turn on at 6pm and shut down at 6am. I have not had to touch anything for a week, it just goes. Not unusual to get home and have people parked around my house staring.

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JCO

· #12 · Oct 16, 2015

For the first video (from Phantasms): First of all, it looks fine. If you're happy with it, leave a good thing alone. I agree with 6-paq, if you're going for a hologram effect by using the chiffon you should have some illumination in the room. If you just want it straight - a ghostly character on a black background - you might consider using a shower curtain liner with a piece of BLACK chiffon in front of it. Shower curtains are a much easier medium to deal with; there are no issues with bleed-through, hot spotting, projector placement, etc. The black scrim increases the black level of the background while still allowing the image to show through. It dampens the ambient brightness the projector puts out as well as any ambient light from outside such as street lights or at dusk/twilight.

The second one (Shades of Evil) is fine, too. I wouldn't do a thing to change it. Adding black scrim doesn't enhance these "silhouette" videos; the stark black and white contrast is what you want, so why dampen it?

In short, you're doing great! Tweek it if you want but it all looks fine as is.

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Discussion Starter · #13 · Oct 16, 2015

JCO said:
For the first video (from Phantasms): First of all, it looks fine. If you're happy with it, leave a good thing alone. I agree with 6-paq, if you're going for a hologram effect by using the chiffon you should have some illumination in the room. If you just want it straight - a ghostly character on a black background - you might consider using a shower curtain liner with a piece of BLACK chiffon in front of it. Shower curtains are a much easier medium to deal with; there are no issues with bleed-through, hot spotting, projector placement, etc. The black scrim increases the black level of the background while still allowing the image to show through. It dampens the ambient brightness the projector puts out as well as any ambient light from outside such as street lights or at dusk/twilight.

The second one (Shades of Evil) is fine, too. I wouldn't do a thing to change it. Adding black scrim doesn't enhance these "silhouette" videos; the stark black and white contrast is what you want, so why dampen it?

In short, you're doing great! Tweek it if you want but it all looks fine as is.

You mean the actual room light, like the overhead? Or something like a table lamp? I definitely cannot do candles, I barely ever even go upstairs.

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· #14 · Oct 16, 2015

reefcrazed said:
You mean the actual room light, like the overhead? Or something like a table lamp? I definitely cannot do candles, I barely ever even go upstairs.

Either or both. The whole point of using chiffon is to be able to see the room beyond the character, making the character appear to be transparent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNDygXqmIgA

And here's a comparison video I made doing shower curtain projections with and without a scrim under varying ambient light conditions. Skip my long-winded intro and start at 5:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUQJX7aXddY

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reefcrazed

Discussion Starter · #15 · Oct 16, 2015

So really I might be able to turn on the lights and have a better effect? Never thought about that.

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· #16 · Oct 16, 2015

reefcrazed said:
You mean the actual room light, like the overhead? Or something like a table lamp? I definitely cannot do candles, I barely ever even go upstairs.

I use battery-operated candles that work on a timer, like these Luminara. Costco also sells a nice set that are cheaper and also have a remote. You can get them just about anywhere. Set them on "timer" when you want it to go on and then let it go. The only maintenance I need for these are to change the batteries.

http://www.amazon.com/Luminara-Wax-Candle-5-Inch-Ivory/dp/B007GDV4E0/ref=sr_1_2?s=furniture&dd=BI6fc0KFolJxGmTmVJwLWg%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1445025202&sr=1-2&keywords=luminara&refinements=p_97%3A11292772011

I think battery-operated candlelight adds to the "creepy" atmosphere and are easy and safe. You could also use a low wattage table lamp or anything that gives out a smaller wattage of light so as not to overpower the projection.

This is just a "tweek", but your projections do look great.

I just added this in since you are using the chiffon. It works great for a "hologram".

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· #17 · Oct 16, 2015

reefcrazed said:
As far as quality, the new Phantasm series is a huge 3gb download from the website. Those are very good quality for $60 but my favorite are still the shadow series, they are simple and look great on the shower curtain. Damned if I can get the wrinkles out of it though.

I think it was someone on here that suggested putting the shower curtain in the dryer for one minute to help eliminate wrinkles.

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Discussion Starter · #18 · Oct 16, 2015

6-paq said:
I think it was someone on here that suggested putting the shower curtain in the dryer for one minute to help eliminated wrinkles.

I am guessing just to let the rubber get warm enough to pull the wrinkles out. They do come to you with a ton of wrinkles.

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mikey23

· #19 · Oct 16, 2015

I use the polyester ones from Walmart. You can put them in the dryer for several minutes and get most of the wrinkles out.

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Discussion Starter · #20 · Oct 17, 2015

JCO said:
For the first video (from Phantasms): First of all, it looks fine. If you're happy with it, leave a good thing alone. I agree with 6-paq, if you're going for a hologram effect by using the chiffon you should have some illumination in the room. If you just want it straight - a ghostly character on a black background - you might consider using a shower curtain liner with a piece of BLACK chiffon in front of it. Shower curtains are a much easier medium to deal with; there are no issues with bleed-through, hot spotting, projector placement, etc. The black scrim increases the black level of the background while still allowing the image to show through. It dampens the ambient brightness the projector puts out as well as any ambient light from outside such as street lights or at dusk/twilight.

The second one (Shades of Evil) is fine, too. I wouldn't do a thing to change it. Adding black scrim doesn't enhance these "silhouette" videos; the stark black and white contrast is what you want, so why dampen it?

In short, you're doing great! Tweek it if you want but it all looks fine as is.

OMG, that made all the difference in the world! Just one 15 watt bulb in the room lit it up perfectly, it looks so much more real now. Anything over 15 watts looked worse.

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