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    Quote Originally Posted by robb View Post
    Anything about Ed and Lorraine Warren is always great. No one was better than them regarding the paranormal.
    No offense to robb for posting this, but I have to point out that the Warrens have been accused of falsifying information about hauntings, particularly for the "documentary" called A Haunting in Connecticut, which was then turned into the movie of almost the same name. I saw the documentary, and there were things in it I'm positive were not true because they were just so fake and so different from what really happens when a place is haunted. (Mainly: water turning to blood while the mother mopped the kitchen floor. Yeah, THAT happens in real life.) The author who wrote the book has also stated that Ed Warren told him to make things up for the book to "make it scary." Additionally, many paranormal investigators who are familiar with the Warrens have said that anything they say should be taken with a grain of salt. I just wanted to point these things out because I hate people who falsify things and use the paranormal as a money-making tool.

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    So called investigators who add their own BS/fantasy do not help anyone to begin to actually figure out the supernatural things around us. Confusion, lies, never help.
    They might just be looking toward a fatter bank balance and feel real smug about it but more mis-information doesnot add the body of factual information needed by any researcher or real scientist reguarding , helping to find some truths .
    I listen to people's personal ghost stories here (in my house) almost every week. I Do believe Most of the stories because of my own experiences, until and if their stories begin to sound like a Hollywood horror movie featuring utterly fantastic, aggressive, repeated scenarios intimating some possibly dire or utterly life-threatening consequences.
    My house has had a history involving a great many people over a span of many years all having what would be caled supernatural experiences happening in it.
    Some people do make up stories just to garner some attention, I usually sort them out fairly quickly but I always leave a small place in my mind to believe them because we never really can know for sure 100%.
    What "Hollywood" doesn't very well comprehend about haunting is that it is scary to those who experience it but is not usually very scary to all of those who have not.
    Rather than simply having actual people relate their actual, truth-filled experiences to the unblinking eye of the camera, they rather take the easy road and just fabricate a bunch of over-the-top BS.
    I have proven non-believers can be entertained and made to wonder and even scared if someone simply tells their account plainly and truthfully.(Which I have done almost every night here for ten years)
    I temper the truth with attempted humor (usually) because I really do not wish to add fear or phobias to anyone's life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym Whourlfeld View Post
    So called investigators who add their own BS/fantasy do not help anyone to begin to actually figure out the supernatural things around us. Confusion, lies, never help.
    They might just be looking toward a fatter bank balance and feel real smug about it but more mis-information doesnot add the body of factual information needed by any researcher or real scientist reguarding , helping to find some truths .
    I listen to people's personal ghost stories here (in my house) almost every week. I Do believe Most of the stories because of my own experiences, until and if their stories begin to sound like a Hollywood horror movie featuring utterly fantastic, aggressive, repeated scenarios intimating some possibly dire or utterly life-threatening consequences.
    My house has had a history involving a great many people over a span of many years all having what would be caled supernatural experiences happening in it.
    Some people do make up stories just to garner some attention, I usually sort them out fairly quickly but I always leave a small place in my mind to believe them because we never really can know for sure 100%.
    What "Hollywood" doesn't very well comprehend about haunting is that it is scary to those who experience it but is not usually very scary to all of those who have not.
    Rather than simply having actual people relate their actual, truth-filled experiences to the unblinking eye of the camera, they rather take the easy road and just fabricate a bunch of over-the-top BS.
    I have proven non-believers can be entertained and made to wonder and even scared if someone simply tells their account plainly and truthfully.(Which I have done almost every night here for ten years)
    I temper the truth with attempted humor (usually) because I really do not wish to add fear or phobias to anyone's life.

    I agree with this. There's a handful of paranormal groups that my Team and I have come in contact with that are looking primarily for the fun, glitz, and glamor of the paranormal - getting on TV, Books, becoming famous, etc. I've encountered teams that publish videos and information on their websites about possibly "haunted" locations with absolutely no evidence shown. They say "We found that this location is haunted" without providing any REAL evidence - no EVPs, no pictures, nothing.

    From a personal view, which is held by almost every paranormal investigator I've met so far that was legitimately an investigator holds the same belief about TV and mass-media investigators; take everything they say with a grain of salt. There are legitimate teams on TV that I've met, and investigated places that they have investigated. Unfortunately, sometimes it is not the actual team that is trying to pull fake stunts, but the TV producers themselves.

    My personal belief is that any team that calls themselves Paranormal Investigators should have a majority of their data online for anyone to review. Pictures from public investigations (Public Locations that you have consent to upload online) should be the least online. For my own team, server-space is an issue in regards to uploading all of our data. We use photobucket to upload all pictures, and I'll be uploading any EVP's caught and any anomalys caught on video to cut down on the amount of space used.

    While I believe that there can be some crazy things occurring in the paranormal field, I do believe that most claims are somewhat blown out of proportion (e.g. someone heard a knock on a wall and tells their friend that a ghost was banging on their wall and it was extremely loud). It happens a lot in the field, especially if something like that is not documented the moment it happens.


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    i love reading Ghost stations 1-8 by Bruce Barrymore Halpenny . A great set of books about haunted airfields around the uk.
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