Thread: Dogmen / Werewolves

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One link I left out was their "Top Ten Stories of 2006." Guess what, they ranked that story number 6.
Goodd thing I only read that paper online, I wouldn't buy it for anything. It's not my area anyway, thank heaven.

Sleazy newpapers. And to think when I was a little kid, I wanted to be a reporter like Lois Lane.

Wow - I opened a can of worms!

My information comes mainly from Linda Godfrey's books, "The Beast of Bray Road" and "Hunting the American Werewolf", along with a couple of sightings experienced by people I know (like in the first post). Linda' books aren't anything like the hoax that those radio guys pulled, and she has very little to say about the Michigan Dogman because there isn't much info. She has no first-hand accounts from Michigan, but instead talks about the stories of folk-collectors and "The Legend". The majority of the sightings in her books are in Wisconsin, and she has done a very good job with her research.

This conversation has made me realize that the guys at the radio station wouldn't have known any more about the actual sightings than the people in Wisconsin (or other states for that matter) would have known about the Michigan Dogman. Linda obviously came across "The Legend" during her research and there would have been no prior connection.

Linda's writing style is very entertaining, and her research very well done, so her books are fun to read even if you don't believe in anything cryptid or paranormal.

Also, try asking people if they have ever had a strange sighting. I didn't realize how people tend to keep this information to themselves unless questioned by someone they trust! A lot of times people won't talk until they feel it is "safe" to do so.

Originally Posted by night-owl

I didn't realize how people tend to keep this information to themselves unless questioned by someone they trust! A lot of times people won't talk until they feel it is "safe" to do so.

Maybe so night-owl, maybe so. I tend to think that was more true before the 60's than it's ever been since. The degree, amount and variety of what is socially, popularly acceptable is SO overwhelmingly in FAVOR of the supernatural/paranormal view of everything, that I don't find the argument of 'fear of ridicule' or similar, to be very convincing anymore.
Certainly there are still a lot of REAL topics and problems that a lot of people are afraid to discuss even with family and friends; male rape, child abuse, drug addictions, mental illness, and so on. And that is sad.
But since the 60's or so it seems that most of the strange things people called 'coo-coo' before then are not only commonplace but ENCOURAGED by the media.
The person who said 'I see Martians in the woods behind my home', in the 50's, probably lost their job if not their entire reputation in their community.
Nowadays, that same statement and a fuzzy picture or Blair Witch-style video blip will get them a decade long multimedia career, and likely a job sub'ing for Art Bell or George Noory once in a while.
And that's what I hate about the silly season garbage hyped all over the place. It gets in the way when there really may be people who are afraid, need help, or have something significant to tell us. The completely absurd and obviously b.s. stories keep us from finding any truths behind the comparatively tiny percentage of real mysteries in this world.


Mike C.

Yeah, I don't think people are so much afraid of getting in trouble as just being ridiculed. I had a UFO sighting one time but hardly ever mention it because so often the reaction is "she is one of those 'not very bright' people who believes in aliens". (Actually, I think it was most likely a man-made aircraft.) Also, I just don't tend to think about it so the subject almost never comes up.

What annoys me about this stuff is the people who claim to be doing "science" when, in fact, they are just guessing. There are a few reputable people and groups who are doing a good job. However, the definition of "science" is soooo screwed up in our society that it seems like anyone's unsubstantiated idea is dubbed a "theory" and REAL theories are called "beliefs".
(Of course, sometimes real science ruins the mystery.)

That is one of the things I like about this dogman subject. There are enough good sightings and historical information to make it worth a look, but noone is doing a "scientific" investigation so there is still a lot of mystery. And it is just plain spooky.

My suggestion to ask people if they have ever had a sighting was to, hopefully, generate more stories for people to post!

While I haven't personally come across a werewolf, I believe they exist!

Anybody have a file of "the legend" that they could happen to accidently get uploaded somewhere? So that somebody not from michigan might get to hear it once.

Originally Posted by frizzen

Anybody have a file of "the legend" that they could happen to accidently get uploaded somewhere? So that somebody not from michigan might get to hear it once.

You can order a copy from the radio station.

i've read this entire thread twice and the hoax/makeaquickbuck argument 3 times and there are only 2 things i can add:

1) many native americans labled their best warriors as dogmen (bearmen etc.) and many legends tell of shapeshifters so there could be something there

2) many people living in michigan have NEVER heard the legend. the only people who know it well live in the range of the radio station that plays it. not everyone in that range listens to that station. many people in the farther reaches of the U.P. and father down near detroit have never heard the legend. its almost a strictly local thing. some people who dont know the legend have had experiences, they just keep quiet or pretend it didn't happen. people are like that, if it cannot be explained they ignore it or hunt/kill it. these people don't say anything until they know more about it.

side note: they are looking for big foot in the U.P. now.

LEWISTON, Maine -- A mystery beast that turned out to be a dog is going to be featured on the History Channel.

The animal that was believed to have killed dogs in Wales and Greene gets the spotlight Wednesday in part of a 13-week documentary called "MonsterQuest." The show also looks at evidence surrounding other legendary creatures such as Bigfoot and Birdzilla.

In Maine, the grotesque body of a mystery animal that was found dead near power lines in Turner was confirmed by DNA tests to be a dog, putting to rest speculation that it was an exotic beast.

But before the mystery was solved, word of the Maine beast received widespread attention.

The "MonsterQuest" series was created by Whitewolf Entertainment of Minnesota.

there's this new evidence of dogmen/werewolves out now called the gable film

i watched it on youtube and personally think its a bear but then again i am a skeptic of all sorts of things.

anyone else see this evidence?