Has anyone used the irrigation hose method instead of an ice chiller for ground fog? We're thinking of switching over this year as it seemingly would be a lot easier, but I'm wondering if anybody here uses that method & the pros/cons on it. Here's one vid that makes it look ideal, but I don't know really if it's for us:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfkwBLILjLc
Thread: Irrigation Hose for Ground Fog?
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Irrigation Hose for Ground Fog? –
05-18-2010,08:01 AM
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05-18-2010,09:00 AM
I really like the look of this. I have seen other people on here who use perforated ADS filled with frozen water bottles. I may have to try that myself.
One can never have too many skulls!
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05-18-2010,09:33 AM
i havnt heard of people useing that before its great effect now i think im switching over i used dryer vent in the past with frozen water botels and was allways happy but it only came out of the end i like how its the intire lentgh of pipe def switching thanks for post
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05-18-2010,02:31 PM
What do you mean with frozen water bottles? I use the standard old cooler and chicken wire but love the irrigation thing. I wonder if you cooled it then put it through the irrigation tube... would it creep more?
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05-18-2010,03:38 PM
We've done the frozen coke bottles thing, the chiller thing, you name it. But, from what I;ve seen on video clips, the underground distribution system kicks some serious butt. If you can set that up, that would definitely be the way to go.
Wolfman
"Because a Child's mind is a Terrible Thing not to mess with."
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05-18-2010,04:27 PM
I guess the idea here is not to use any ice cubes, frozen bottles, dry ice, or what have you. That's what attracted us to this method. Using irrigation hose (I've never seen any, but the youtube notes say it has smallish holes punched all over it) that is duct taped to the fogger & with the end taped shut, the fog is compacted just as chilling does & forced out through the holes. This makes ground-hugging fog the same as if ice was used to condense the fog molecules.
Thanks to all who have commented so far- I think we're going to try irrigation hose method this year, unless someone has a big negative about it to throw into the mix
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05-18-2010,08:19 PM
I can't see how the hose itself will cool the fog to get it to hug the ground.
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05-18-2010,08:36 PM
I couldn't see how it might work either until I read this in the youtube guy's notes:
"Low lying fog using an irrigation hose without ice. Amazing how the lack of wind helps.
Block the end of the tube with tape though so the fog only comes through the holes.
Low fog doesn't have as much to do with being cold but being more dense. The reason fog chillers work is because the cold makes the fog more dense thus it's heavier than air, causing it to be low. Plugging the end of the tube causes resistance and the fog has to compact before coming out the smaller holes..."
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05-18-2010,08:37 PM
I don't buy that. If no ice or ice bottles are in that hose, then the fog machine is a fog chiller type itself. Look how far it creeps and stays down. That is not just a regular fogger dispensing that fog, I don't think. If it were, the fog would come out of the holes and rise right up anyway. That's creeping, chilled fog to me. And if that's a fog chiller machine, that's a great endorcement for it. I'd love to ice up a length of tube, but that's a lot of ice and/or ice bottles and I just don't know if I'd have the room in my freezer to make it all! Guess I'd have to buy the ice. As much as I want to commit to this, it's SO depenent on the wind factor. There's no wind in that vid and it really makes a difference. The tube is the way to go though for dispersal. As it is, I just have a bunch of regular foggers on timers. Not very effective, but last year there was so much wind I was glad I didn't go nuts in the first place.
Dan



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