Thread: Chauvet Hurricane H1100 problem?

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I purchased this 1100 watt model last year along with the remote control, and I was wondering if anyone else had experience with this particular model? It produces very thick, dense fog. But, it only cycles for about 20-30 seconds at a time. Then the pump stops, forcing you to re-trigger it.

Obviously it's not a heating element or thermistor problem. Being that it can immediately be triggered again, & is at full volume output from the moment it fires. Most of the time, it's only a small hassle forcing me to keep a hand on the remote. I have a few 555 based timer boards laying around & was considering rigging one up to experiment with (I'm thinking a possible flaw in the remote control system?). Any ideas as to what may be going on? I should note, that I have an old Ness 700w, as well as a couple of small 400w spot foggers which don't have the same operational quirk. They will blast until they shut down for their reheat cycle.

So you are saying the ready light never goes off.

Most foggers are not continuous cycle. There is no adjustment for volume. They are either on or off. I have a Hurricane 1300 and it does the same thing. It will blast for 20 seconds or so and then you have to wait. This is because the thermostat not thermistor has turned off the pump cycle. The thermistor is to protect the heater from overheating. The thermostat is to keep the pump from pumping fog fluid when the heater is below optimum temp. The evidense of this is the ready light on the fogger and I believe the remote has one too.

So unless you possess a fogger like no other, the symptoms you describe are normal. The Heater transfers heat to the fog fluid which is what makes the fog. The heating element can not keep the heater hot enough. The heater has a temp probe that is linked to the thermostat. If you have ever seen an auxiliary cooling fan for a car, you would see the very same probe and thermostat. Different temp range of course. But regardless, the fogger you have is not a continuous duty model and unless you bypass the thermostat, I am fairly sure you will see the cycle you describe. If you want to make the fogger a true on demand fogger, the fix is easy. You just bypass the thermostat. This will make the pump circuit active at all times. In so doing you can shoot fog juice out of the heater even when it is stone cold.

Thanks for the reply.

For clarity, Yes the ready light does stay lit and the machine can be fired immediately for another 20-30 second burst directly after the initial shut off. In actuality, can be fired repeatedly w/ no delay after each one of these "shut off's" until nearing 2 or so minutes of output when the thermostat does trigger a reheat cycle. Which would seem to indicate that the heating element on the nozzle is not dropping in temperature to a point where the thermostat is kicking it back into a reheating cycle (I was speaking on the phone earlier with a supplier ordering thermistors while typing that...left brain/right brain crossfire ). Though I have not opened the unit to confirm that because I didn't want to void the warranty, and figured I should just ask instead.


I am aware that it's not a continuous duty machine. However, I am curious as to why the burst from an 1100 watt element machine is incapable of meeting or exceeding the same duration as my 700 watt machine (even my (2) 400 watt foggers will outlast the H1100's blast duration handily). Or if in fact, I needed to look into RMA'ing a defective unit. Hearing that your H1300 does the same is a relief, and the only modification necessary is a lower temp thermostat. Which will be quick mod I'll make after September, when it's warranty expires. Thanks for the advice

If the ready light stays on then one would assume that the pump circuit is active. Which leads me to believe that your remote is an issue here. Do you have the same problem if you disconnect the remote and use the manual fog button?

I'll have to look into that. I seem to remember that it did the same whether triggered through the wired remote, or the r/c remote (I only tested once with the wired remote for a short blast before installing the receiver module). I'll get it out of the attic later when I get home, and verify that.

You should also have a manual button on the unit that allows for fogging with no remote Wireless or Wired connected. That would be the best way to verify if the remote control is causing the delay.

I checked your model. Fog juice consumption 65 ml a minute. 8000 CFM

The 1300 uses 125 ml a minute and puts out 20000 CFM

Your unit has a 774 watt heater, the 1300 uses 1328 watts. Big difference.

The fact that your unit sounds like it can output fog for a longer period is interesting. But the 1300 does consume nearly twice the amount of fog juice per minute and the heater is not twice the wattage. So there is some logic to it.

The 1100 and the 1300 appear to be two totally different designs. About 2 years ago quite a few of us caught Chauvet over rating their 1200. After testing we found the heater only consumed about 800 watts. Some of us got free units. That is how I got my 1300. And it puts out some serious fog.

After going to Chauvet's site, I see what you mean. Actually, all of their model numbers are misleading, the H1300 is the only exception. e.g.: The H900 has only a 404 watt rating, while the 700 has a 445 watt. The H1800 is listed as 1300 watt total draw, less than the H1300's 1328 watts consumed?!?

The e-tailer that mine was purchased from lists it as a 1100 watt model in their webpage. But then looking at the spec sheet at the bottom of the page, it gives a 774 watt total consumption rating. Intentionally misleading advertising? Little wonder why my old Ness 700 watt gives longer duration bursts.

Thanks for the pointing me in the right direction. Though, now I'm pretty unhappy at finding I was conned. This was my 1st, and last purchase of Chauvet's products. :/


http://www.directproaudio.com/produc...directid=61738 <- That is where I purchased mine last year.

Yep, was afraid of this. Before Chauvet was caught inflating their numbers, all of their advertising was stating the incorrect numbers. Unfortunately, the suppliers of the units probably didn't keep up with the changes (the new honest figures) and so they look they they are false advertising. This all started with Chauvet. Here's the thread where all this was uncovered: Interesting Chauvet Hurricane 1250 observations

Here's what I found out when I tested my Chauvet 1050's which is the older model of yours:

Okay, here are the results of testing my Chauvet 1050's which was advertised as having a 1000 watt heater with a Kill-a-Watt meter:

Warm-up: 830-890 watts
Fogging: 13 watts
No fogging: 1 watt
Recharge: 830-890 watts

Hi Terra Thanks for the info and the link. Being that total draw is rated at 774 watts, I'd be surprised if it's even pulling 690-700 watts under full load. Seems like a good time to start a new investigation. Time to grab my ammeter.





Offtopic/ Also, one piece of info I should rectify from the old thread linked. The discussion of the old AMD Athalon (FX series) cpu's being underrated. Yes, clock speeds were low. However, benchmark performance showed a Pentium 4 needing nearly 5 Ghz of clock speed just to keep up with a FX-55 AMD @ 2.2 Ghz. Lol, it's about throughput and most importantly...the efficiency of the arch. Clock speeds are irrelevant, and they would overclock well in excess of the model numbers, not "speed". Unlike someone suggested in the thread. Intel's Netburst was a bust....and stayed so until C2D. Since then, Intel has had the performance crown. That however, is subject to change being that AMD's new architecture (Bulldozer) is due out in 30-60 days, is also named FX.

Sorry for the OT, one of my areas of expertise is performance computers