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    I was considering being Sam, as well, although not really a more feminine version. Just Sam. But I'm going to be keeping a close eye on this thread for ideas! I can't wait to see how your costume turns out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by v_gan View Post
    I was considering being Sam, as well, although not really a more feminine version. Just Sam. But I'm going to be keeping a close eye on this thread for ideas! I can't wait to see how your costume turns out!
    Yeah, I've decided to just do full-on Sam and no alterations really.

    If you really want a good tutorial, this guy did a pretty good job here:

    http://www.therpf.com/f24/sam-trick-r-treat-72402/

    Like I said though, I'm trying to find an alternative to the large paper mache model for under the burlap mask.

    Good luck to you!
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    Sossa,

    At Walmart and/or Target they have these wire bins at the back of the store by the kids section with large plastic balls. Maybe 1-3 dollars. They are usually blue or pink with a type of swirl. I thought you might be able to cut a whole in the bottom of the ball to put your head, and then cut out some eyes. Basically, it might be a cheap alternative to frame the burlap sack, than the Jack Skellington mask. Same round shape, but a little sturdier.

    But, I just saw that the Jack Skellington mask is about 16 bucks. If you can see through the eyes, without cutting them....you may be able to use them as your buttons. Maybe just sew thread through them so they look like buttons, and then you don't have to ruin the mask at all. Just make sure the burlap mask is pulled tightly against it so it looks like they are on top. Or you can cut them out in the shape of buttons. Attach them to the burlap mask (with holes behind them), then sew the thread to make it look like buttons. That way you are actually looking through the "buttons". But, again, to get the right look, they may be too far apart to look through.

    Anyway, I hope the stuff I wrote first clears up the "plastic ball".
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    This place sells custom made sleepsuits/passion killers for adults and kids

    You can have the drop seat added at the back and fox cub looks like the right colour to me. If you look at their gallery link and scroll down there's a boy wearing on in the fox cub shade.

    http://www.the-all-in-one-company.co.uk/all-in-ones

    They ship worldwide too.
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    Papier-mache worked fine when I made the mask last year, stretched over top a balloon. You can see through burlap really well when it's close to your face, and if you're worried about people seeing in just stretch thin black stockings across the holes you'll see through. I recommend a "geordi visor" sort of shape to your eye holes, you'll fall a lot less than I did :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by halloween_sucks_in_the_uk View Post
    This place sells custom made sleepsuits/passion killers for adults and kids

    You can have the drop seat added at the back and fox cub looks like the right colour to me. If you look at their gallery link and scroll down there's a boy wearing on in the fox cub shade.

    http://www.the-all-in-one-company.co.uk/all-in-ones

    They ship worldwide too.

    Thank you, but I've already got the body of the costume being made for me. It's just the mask I'm having trouble on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discobandit View Post
    Papier-mache worked fine when I made the mask last year, stretched over top a balloon. You can see through burlap really well when it's close to your face, and if you're worried about people seeing in just stretch thin black stockings across the holes you'll see through. I recommend a "geordi visor" sort of shape to your eye holes, you'll fall a lot less than I did :P

    I was trying to avoid paper mache, but everyone's touting it, so maybe I will give it a try.

    Also I don't know what you mean by a Geordi visor over my eyes? I mean I know what one is, but do you mean to wear them under the paper mache hood? And how come you kept falling over?

    Thanks for the info!
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    Haha, sorry that was vague. I mean a stripe cut out of the helmet, sort of like geordi's mask, right in front of your eyes to give you a wide field of vision. Instead of two little holes to look out of, for instance, you make more of a mail-box slot in the helmet =)

    I had similar troubles with deciding what to make the helmet out of as other people online apparently did. I tried wire first, decided halfway through that it'd look awful, then moved on to paper mache. I thought it was going to be really heavy and hot, but thankfully, living in Canada, it was a cold night :P If I had to do it again, I'd put a hole in the top and maybe a small little computer fan powered by a 9 volt battery for air.

    As well, I kept falling over because I just made two holes for my eyes, thinking it'd work like a normal mask. The problem is, the eye holes didn't give a LOT of visibility, so I'd have to move my head around to see where I was moving, and moving around a big paper mache head covered in hot glue and burlap got to be a liiittle tiring after the entire night, so I tried to do it as little as possible and just guess.

    ...yeah, it didn't work out very well and I fell a couple of times mostly on curbs though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discobandit View Post
    Haha, sorry that was vague. I mean a stripe cut out of the helmet, sort of like geordi's mask, right in front of your eyes to give you a wide field of vision. Instead of two little holes to look out of, for instance, you make more of a mail-box slot in the helmet =)

    I had similar troubles with deciding what to make the helmet out of as other people online apparently did. I tried wire first, decided halfway through that it'd look awful, then moved on to paper mache. I thought it was going to be really heavy and hot, but thankfully, living in Canada, it was a cold night :P If I had to do it again, I'd put a hole in the top and maybe a small little computer fan powered by a 9 volt battery for air.

    As well, I kept falling over because I just made two holes for my eyes, thinking it'd work like a normal mask. The problem is, the eye holes didn't give a LOT of visibility, so I'd have to move my head around to see where I was moving, and moving around a big paper mache head covered in hot glue and burlap got to be a liiittle tiring after the entire night, so I tried to do it as little as possible and just guess.

    ...yeah, it didn't work out very well and I fell a couple of times mostly on curbs though.


    Ahh, okay. Now it makes more sense, haha. Yes, if I were to do that with paper mache, I'd have a large hole for the eyes and mouth. And maybe even paint the helmet black since burlap may show the whiter color underneath more. We'll see! Burlap is inexpensive per yard, so I can have a couple of test runs before I try it.

    Oh, and I was thinking about wire frames too, but I can see how you'd think it's look bad. And it's kind of impractical, as well.

    Thanks for the tips, I'll try out the paper mache thing and see how it goes. I've got three months at least to figure it out.
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    Hey everyone, I have another question!

    I've decided to try out a paper mache head mask using a big balloon. How many layers of paper should I put over it? So far I did two last night and letting that dry before I try anymore. Thanks!
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