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Thread: So lets talk pricing.
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So lets talk pricing. –
04-30-2009,07:51 AM
"...And out of the darkness, the Zombie did call
True pain and suffering he brought to them all
Away ran the children to hide in their beds,
for fear that the devil would chop off their heads..."
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04-30-2009,08:06 AM
I agree you've got great props there and someone less creative than yourself would be chomping at the bit to get them. I personally think you're not charging enough for your time. If you're only making between $15-50 profit on them depending on how long it takes you to make them (and I think it would take a while) it might not be worth your time and effort. I'd figure out what hourly rate you'd be happy with and then realistically work out an estimate of how long each prop takes. Base your final cost on that. Now whether people would be willing to pay for your hard work - that would depend on how much they want it but at least you wouldn't feel like you're working for nothing when you could be building your own props. Just my 2 cents.
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04-30-2009,08:34 AM
Totally agree. You are short-changing yourself and time involved (and mess and cleanup
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If you really want to build them, I'd also check about ordering wholesale or in quantity to see about getting a price break on things like the skellies... just to see if you could pad a little more profit into the prop without raising the price sky high.
I think also that you need to check out the sales over on EBay and the like - specifically custom Halloween props - do the market research. You do have some great pieces there, but you don't know how well they'll sell since you're targeting two different sub-groups:
1. Those people that want the cool stuff, but may think that "home made" is not as good a quality (more willing to pay bigger money to the big name sites for the cheap mass-produced junk because they don't know any better). So you'll have to convince this type that your props are superior quality and worth the money you're asking.
2. The Halloween enthusiast that is getting into building their own props, or lacks the skills to build their own props and wants custom made stuff and can appreciate the effort and better quality. This group, you're targeting the lesser skilled prop builder - they might be a whiz with the mechanics, but not so good at the corpsing or finishing touches... which is where you'd come in.
See, when I was just starting out, those prices would have shocked me. I can't even remember what I would have thought would be a "reasonable" price, but it would have scared me off. BUT you really can't make this sort of stuff without charging AT LEAST what it cost you in materials and labor, and I realize that NOW, and think your prices are too low taking THAT into consideration.
So the biggie would be to try to reduce your materials cost so you wouldn't have to raise the prices over what you've got, but still account for your time...
Good luck!I'm a Halloween Bride! 10/31/2002
Where there is no imagination there is no horror.
~Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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04-30-2009,08:56 AM
Hey Nick, first of all you do very good work. I have to compliment you because your props are very realistic looking. I don't think your prices are unfair at all to be honest with you considering the cost of materials. The only issue I see is finding enough people to have enough disposable income to spend that kind of money on props right now. So, whereas I think your prices are not unfair considering the quality, you still might have trouble selling them.
As for the skulls, I'm thinking the price might be a little high. I understand that the materials alone drive your asking price, but I personally probably wouldn't pay more than $35 for the prop at most. You might not want to make too many of those until you see if they actually sell.
Now granted, I'm very new to this and have only begun to check out Halloween decorations, so these might be underpriced compared to what's out there, and my expectations of prop pricing might be unrealistic. I'm just thinking as an uninformed newbie who's looking to buy some props. I have no talent or experience and don't think I could come close to the kind of quality your offering.
I hope this helps. I've been lurking for a while and this is my first post, but I wanted to comment because I really like your work! Great job!Just lurking and learning from some very talented people for a possible first year yard haunt.
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04-30-2009,09:11 AM
I agree, you are not charging for your time. What you are creating are professional quality props. You should do the market research and see what the pros are charging. You're skeletons are beautiful. Your resident evil dog is gorgeous.
I also agree with Frankie's Girl. See if you can purchase materials for a better price. See what it costs to buy in bulk, order off the internet, etc. Don't be afraid to haggle with local merchants, too!
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04-30-2009,09:55 AM
Anyone know of any places that sell props like these? I would love to see what the pros are charging for stuff like this it would give me something to compete with.
"...And out of the darkness, the Zombie did call
True pain and suffering he brought to them all
Away ran the children to hide in their beds,
for fear that the devil would chop off their heads..."
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04-30-2009,10:25 AM
Here's a quicklist. You can also just run a google search, or get a vendor listing for one of the national conventions.
www.MostlyDead.com
Halloween Decorations, Halloween Props, Halloween Costumes, Halloween Masks, Halloween Accessories
Guaranteed Lowest Prices on Halloween Props & Halloween Animatronics at HauntedProps.com
TheHorrorDome.com - Halloween Props, Costumes, Masks, Haunted House Animatronics
FrightProps - Halloween Decorations, Halloween Props, Pneumatic Props, Animated Props, Halloween Accessories
Homemade Halloween Props, Halloween decorations, Halloween costumes, Haunted Houses
Halloween Asylum - Totally Demented Halloween Props, Masks and Costumes
THE HAUNTER'S DEPOT - Halloween, Halloween Costumes, Christmas, Christmas Costumes, Masks, Props, Haunted House Supplies, Decorations, Animatronics, Changing Portraits, Horror Props, Special Effects, Makeup, Makeup Supplies
Halloween props, custom masks, custom props, custom promotional marketing products designed by Dynamic Design International manufacturers
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04-30-2009,10:48 AM
I found some places that sell similar props but the ones i saw (Skeletons) had more meat on the bones of their props than mine do, Anyways they were in the 400-700.00 price range.
I only saw one dog that could compare to mine and in my opinion it looked like total garbage. That was going for i believe 500.00
I saw the skull cluster like mine but theirs was made of foam and not hard plastic like mine. It sold for 30.00.
I think i might try ebay and see if my items are even a hit. If they are i will push more for trying to sell them. With the Economy the way it is now i'm sure you guys are right about people just not having the money to spend right now.
Thanks for the help."...And out of the darkness, the Zombie did call
True pain and suffering he brought to them all
Away ran the children to hide in their beds,
for fear that the devil would chop off their heads..."
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04-30-2009,11:45 AM
Nick,
I am a great admirer of your work, as you know and I agree with all the previous comments in that I really don't think you are considering charging enough for what amounts to a quality, limited piece of artwork. Just take a look at the sites and see what they are asking for cheap, mass produced rubbish.
May I please offer one small piece of advice? If you start selling, please do not compromise the quality of your pieces for volume of sales..it's very easy to let that happen, especially if the orders start to come in at a rate.
I personally would prefer to sell one piece of great quality than 3 or 4 pieces that do not come up to my standards.
Another thing to be aware of..When it starts becoming work, it can stop being fun.
Please don't let that happen.
Wishing you the best of luck.
Baron Samedi.
"Celebrating half a century of having fun with the emotionally frail".
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04-30-2009,11:57 AM
Last year I saw some corpsed buckies on the local "classifieds" site for $300.00. I got an email today that talked about $400 3 axis skulls, with movable eyes... Both prices seemed way to high for me, but when you break down all the materials you need and your time those prices start sounding reasonable....unlesssss you have a lot of time to spare.
skulltek



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